Episode 121 – Beyond the Music: Building Skills for a Sustainable Future

Beyond the Music: Building Skills for a Sustainable Future

What does sustainability have to do with music education? More than you might think! In episode 121, Theresa and Kathryn welcome Kyle Bartlett, music educator and researcher, to explore how music classrooms already contribute to sustainability by developing skills like deep listening, collaboration, systems thinking, and student agency. Kyle explains how sustainability extends beyond environmental concerns to include social, economic, and cultural well-being, and how music educators can help students become thoughtful, engaged citizens by creating opportunities for them to listen to others, share their perspectives, and take meaningful action.

Kyle shares practical ways to bring sustainability into music education, from simple deep-listening activities that build awareness of our surroundings to interdisciplinary projects that connect music, engineering, and clean energy. He encourages teachers to start small, explore topics that interest them, and recognize the meaningful work they may already be doing. Tune in to discover how everyday music-making can cultivate skills that reach far beyond the classroom and help students find their voices in a complex world.

Listen to the full interview:


Sustainability means living well together and meeting today's needs without borrowing against tomorrow. Not just environmentally, but economically, socially, and culturally, too.

Here are some key takeaways from Episode 121:

  • Sustainability Starts Here – Music classrooms already foster sustainability through listening, collaboration, and agency, even when teachers don’t recognize these connections.
  • Listen Deeply – Intentional listening builds musical awareness, strengthens connections to our surroundings, and helps students notice what might otherwise go unheard.
  • Cultivate Agency – When students’ voices are heard and valued, they learn their contributions matter and can influence the world around them.
  • Think Beyond Music – Music education develops systems thinking, collaboration, and futures thinking, skills students need to navigate complex challenges beyond the classroom.
  • Start Small – Explore a topic you’re passionate about, learn alongside your students, and discover meaningful ways to connect music with sustainability.

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