We Know We Can: Building Community Through Hip-Hop
In this episode, Theresa and Kathryn are joined by Andrew Wang, a K–12 music teacher who brings hip-hop culture to life in a neurodivergent-centered classroom. Drawing from his own experiences as a neurodivergent learner, Andrew shares how hip-hop became both a personal outlet and a powerful teaching tool. He describes his work in an inclusive school setting, where music supports not only musical growth but also communication, confidence, and social-emotional development. By incorporating elements like beatboxing, call-and-response, and student-selected music, Andrew creates an engaging environment where all students can participate and feel a sense of belonging.
Throughout the conversation, Andrew emphasizes that hip-hop is more than just music, it’s a culture rooted in community, identity, and expression. He highlights practical ways teachers can bring hip-hop into any classroom, from general music to traditional ensembles, while still meeting standards and maintaining intentionality. The discussion also explores how hip-hop can foster deeper student connections, encourage critical thinking, and support lifelong musical engagement. Ultimately, Andrew makes a compelling case for expanding what counts as “valuable” in music education, showing how culturally relevant, student-centered approaches can empower learners of all backgrounds.

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Here are some key takeaways from Episode 112:
- Hip Hop as Culture – Hip-hop is more than music. It’s a culture that builds community, fosters identity, and creates meaningful student connections.
- Student-Centered Learning – Using hip-hop invites student voice and choice, helping learners connect personal experiences to music and classroom content.
- Accessible Entry Points – Strategies like beatboxing and call-and-response create accessible, engaging ways for all students to participate in music-making.
- Intentional Integration – Hip-hop can meet standards through intentional design, supporting musical skills, critical thinking, and cross-curricular connections in any classroom..
- Empowering Neurodiversity – Hip-hop creates inclusive spaces where neurodivergent students can express themselves, build confidence, and feel valued for who they are.

Connect with Andrew and learn more:
- Website: Neuro Hip Hop
- Email: hiphopneuroed@gmail.com
- Links
Other Resources to Check Out:
- Book: Hip Hop Can Save America, by Manny Faces
- Book: We Got Our Own Thang – Real Talk from AJ Woodson
- Book: Yonkers the Lost City of Hip Hop, by Jerome Enders
- Book: For White Folks Who Teach in the Hood, by Chris Emdin
- Book: From White Folks Who Teach in the Hood, by Chris Emdin and Sam Seidel
- Website: Neurodivergent Music Network
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You might also enjoy these other episodes:
- Episode 62 – The Kids Come First: Student Ownership in Ensembles, featuring Kathleen Jacoby
- Episode 90 – Throw Away the Rubric: Ungrading the Music Room, featuring Chris Gleason
- Episode 77 – Inspiring Young Musicians: Passion and Purpose in Music Education, featuring Stephen Cox
- Episode 85 – Fostering Lifelong Learning through Reflective Partnerships, featuring Merlin Thompson