Be the Change-Maker: What Happens When We Listen to Students
In episode 101, Theresa and Kathryn sit down with David Davis, a music educator whose journey from traditional instruction to deeply student-centered, culturally responsive teaching is both relatable and transformative. David shares how his early experiences, especially working in diverse school settings, pushed him to rethink long-held norms about excellence, proficiency, and what it truly means to be a musician. He discusses the power of listening to students, treating them as co-teachers, and embracing creativity as a core component of music learning rather than an occasional add-on.
David also brings to life several of his innovative projects, including the beloved “Kinder Connect” lessons, the powerful “Elders Wisdom Children’s Song” composition project, and even a fully student-created virtual musical born during COVID. Throughout the conversation, he emphasizes risk-taking, redefining the teacher’s role as coach, and rebuilding music education around connection, culture, and intrinsic motivation. Whether you teach band, orchestra, general music, or anything in between, David’s stories will leave you inspired to try something new, and to empower your students to lead, create, and thrive.
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Here are some key takeaways from Episode 101:
- Evolving Philosophy – David shifted from traditional proficiency-based teaching to a human-centered belief that all students are inherently musical and creative.
- Student Voice – Treating students as co-teachers increases engagement, honors their identities, and builds culturally rich, meaningful music-making experiences.
- Creativity First – Original composition, improvisation, and student choice foster authentic ownership—far beyond compliance or “paint-by-numbers” music learning.
- Community Connection – Projects like Kinder Connect and Elders Wisdom help students build deep relationships, celebrate culture, and create purposeful, personal music.
- Courage to Innovate – Teachers must risk stepping beyond tradition, embrace vulnerability, and learn alongside students to create truly transformative music experiences.
Connect with David and learn more:
- Website: David Davis, Music Educator
- LinkedIn: David Davis
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You can check out the full interview on YouTube or your favorite podcast platform. Or you can listen right here, on Spotify Podcasts!
You might also enjoy these other episodes:
- Episode 62 – The Kids Come First: Student Ownership in Ensembles, featuring Kathleen Jacoby
- Episode 90 – Throw Away the Rubric: Ungrading the Music Room, featuring Chris Gleason
- Episode 77 – Inspiring Young Musicians: Passion and Purpose in Music Education, featuring Stephen Cox
- Episode 85 – Fostering Lifelong Learning through Reflective Partnerships, featuring Merlin Thompson
